Dragon Pie vs. emerus #209

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Re: Dragon Pie vs. emerus #209

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[go]$$Bcm61
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . 5 . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If he had played :w1: first, would he ever consider to exchange :ws: for :bs:?

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O @ # . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


He must have changed his mind after his last move and decided that the kosumi was best after all and still is.

I considered more moves on this board that I usually do.

These are the moves that came into my head:

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[go]$$Bcm61
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . e . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O f . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . a . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . c d . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O b . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . g . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The idea of b is to directly use the aji of my invasion stone to get a forcing move. In the past, I would have played a move like this without thinking, but if I don't play that move, I might be able to pull that stone out later. I'm not strong enough in the area to do so now, but white would be happy to not have to worry about that stone anymore, so it's aji keshi and so, I refrain for now.

The other reason that I would play it is because I wouldn't want white to get the same move in sente after I didn't take it and if I couldn't find any other moves that would prevent white from doing so, I would still play it sad that he could so easily fix the aji(And proving that my invasion move was a bad move.)

If white plays there right now, I really wouldn't want to tenuki as my group doesn't have the best shape and the atari would be pretty painful.

c has the benefit of allowing me to make a tiger mouth if now white attempts to take that point, so it doesn't make so much sense for white to do so and as I get stronger, he'll have to go back to immobilize my stone.

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[go]$$Bcm61
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . 5 . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Anyhow, my invasion stone also has a lot of endgame aji making him pay for capturing it.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | 6 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | 5 2 4 . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | 7 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 3 X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I considered a because it theatens a ladder at the same time as strengthening my two cutting stones. It also takes a shape point for the white stones. I don't have that ladder at the moment, but the weakness of his group on the bottom left says that the aji is terrible for him.

If I can make this group strong, The attack on his bottom left group will be easier and more severe.

I considered d because it threatens the white cutting stones in the center more and is faster, but I like nothing else about it and I feel that it just encourages white to strengthen himself and he'll be able to counter attack after he does so.

e and f are less moves that I considered at this point and moves that look good after I'm a bit stronger in the area. As it stands, I would like to keep his cutting stones weak and so I can launch a double attack against two weak groups. Even if he kills my stone, that seems like the best that I can hope for.
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Re: Dragon Pie vs. emerus #209

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[go]$$Bcm61 :
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . 6 , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Kosumi into the center is usually a good move. :clap:

It would be difficult to tolerate black getting the first move either a point above or to the left of :w66:
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[go]$$Bcm61 :
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . 7 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It's tricky for me to decide what to do. I want to help my two cutting stones. I want to severely attack white's group and I want to play another good point which is a follow up to my left side group.

If I help the left group:

This move is likely sente because if white doesn't connect and plays, say :w2:, I have a good follow up.
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[go]$$Bcm1 :
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O 6 7 . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X 5 8 1 . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . 9 . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . 3 . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . 4 O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


BUT, him getting to play :w2: and to follow up against them even if I am able to live over there somehow is probably too good for white. Those two stones are definitely the weakest group even more so than his bottom right group which is still pretty weak.

Nonetheless, I REALLY want to get the peep in on the bottom right group because it takes another likely sente move at P8 helps his group quite a bit.

Anyhow, I really would like to get a move in at the top to strengthen those stones and to be glad that I have a couple of other good moves to look forward to.

So, that's what I've decided to do. It's tricky because I don't want to play the simple one or two space jump in a way because it allows him some forcing moves to help him fix his top side aji and close up some territory, but no other move looks fast enough. I knew I'd be choosing between them. I went with the two space jump because I need want to go fast.
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[go]$$Bcm61 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . 8 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black has the attachment at j11 which destroys my shape. I'll strike at his first.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X 2 4 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Then I'll concern with my cutting stones and central thickness.
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[go]$$Bcm61 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X 9 . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This move surprised me. I can understand how he'd want to settle quickly and maybe he hopes to compensate how badly I can mess up the top after getting my group fixed by attacking my weakish group on the left. Also, this group being stronger means I can't easily get a splitting attack on his groups.
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Sorry to leave you hanging on this "forcing" sequence, went on a float trip for Easter weekend. Off the map.

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[go]$$Bcm61 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just forcing moves. As always, peeping will remove some cut aji but I don't see any potential for it.
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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X 1 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Peeping fixes weaknesses. To me, white just fixed all of my potential cuts. When to peep can be a tricky question. Because you're making your opponent stronger, it makes your own nearby stones weaker in a sense. A weak group near a strong group is very weak, a group with some weaknesses that's near an even weaker group is much stronger. So, white's peeps strengthened himself on both sides in a sense, but by making my group solidly connected, he also weakened his stones a bit. Of course, it can also make a group heavy if the group is allowed to become a burden, but that's hard to foresee happening to my group now.

In my opinion, white's peeps were premature. I think he could have left the aji for later. Of course, later I might respond differently, but I still think that this was too early.

Anyhow, that's all feelings. Let's look at some specifics:

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[go]$$Bcm61 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . c . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . d . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . @ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . W . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . a b . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:wc: starts to make some eyeshape and makes me as black want to play around a to help my group and to hurt his simultaneously. which makes me think that he might jump to b to prevent that point.
:ws: Attempts to help protect his top. It helps him quite a bit against my potential invasion at c, so he is getting some value out of that move.

d looks possible to me though. If a sequence like this occurs, there is a ko. He has a couple of local threats, but I'll do stuff like just attack his weak groups while playing with this aji. Locally, if I win the ko, I break his territory up. If he wins it, my group isn't really adversely affected.

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[go]$$Bcm1 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X 9 8 . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . 6 1 4 O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 5 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . 7 . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . 2 . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X 1 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Just going to jump once for safety then think about doing something about his right side.
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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I probably waited a bit too long to play this anyway, but I'm definitely going to take my chance right now. I think I can weather any attack he can muster on my other groups and he's in big trouble if he ignores this peep.

I'd feel compelled to protect my stones if he played at a and it would help him connect his two weakest groups.

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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . a X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . c . . . . . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Also, b is still a spot that I'd like to get. And as before, c is as well.


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[go]$$Bcm1 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O 4 O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X 3 O 8 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . 7 5 O 2 . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X 6 0 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 9 . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . 4 . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Nice response by White. :clap:
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . 5 . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Separating his groups to keep them weak.
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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X 6 . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Heh, we got a comment! Must mean someone is in trouble. :P

This is a key point for the thickness on both sides. My center stones are close to rebellion but I wont let them die without a fight.
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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X O . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 7 . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Keeping my stones connected.
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[go]$$Bcm71 :
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O O X X X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X O . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 8 X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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