Really awful game...

[KongShou]

Hi there!

Its me again, and this time its a particularly awful game that i played against the computer. I'm still a complete noob, and i decided that the best way that i am going to improve is to show you lot the worst games i play to find out what my vital errors are. Don't be too harsh on me guys, i only started properly for like a week, less than that, i dunno, cant remember. Its bad, i know.

looking back, i realised that i spend too much time on the bottom left corner, and should have expanded my big territory at top, W70 is particularly painful and i believe thats what lost me the game.

http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3221

another slightly better game:

http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3222

[EdLee]

Hi KongShou, Congrats and welcome to Go! If you have not finished 100 games yet,
I highly recommend that you complete 100 games as quickly as your time allows.
Board size doesn't matter so much -- 9x9, 13x13, 19x19, etc. are all OK --
so you can finish more games on the smaller boards faster.

[EdLee]

(;CA[utf-8]FF[1]AP[MultiGo:4.4.4]SZ[19]GM[1]DT[2013-07-01]PB[ylart1-PC]BR[9]PW[GNU GO]
WR[Level 1]MULTIGOGM[0]
;B[pp];W[de];B[cp];W[qe];B[od];W[pc];B[oc];W[pb];B[ob];W[eq];B[dm];W[hq];B[kq];W[dc]
;B[jd];W[qn];B[qo];W[pn]
(;B[po]C[Bad. Empty triangle. See var.];W[on]
(;B[oo]C[Bad. Another empty triangle. See var.];W[pj];B[gc];W[ck];B[cl];W[dk];B[cr]
;W[of];B[nf];W[nh]
(;B[mh]C[See var.];W[ff];B[pe];W[pf];B[pd]C[Bad. Another empty triangle.];W[rc]
;B[qd];W[rd]
(;B[oe]TR[od][pd][qd][pe][oe]C[This big dumpling shape is not good. See var.];W[mn]
;B[mo];W[hf]
(;B[if]C[See var.];W[hh];B[ih];W[jr];B[kr];W[jq];B[jp];W[eo];B[do];W[ip];B[jo];W[dl]
;B[cm];W[hn];B[em];W[fb];B[gb];W[ng];B[mg];W[fk];B[me];W[rn];B[ro];W[bk];B[bl];W[fm]
;B[en]C[Another empty triangle.];W[ii];B[hi];W[gh];B[hj];W[ij];B[hk];W[hl];B[ik]
;W[dp];B[bo];W[dr];B[ds];W[es];B[cs];W[kj];B[jm];W[il];B[jk];W[jl];B[ig];W[ki];B[kh]
;W[mj];B[kk];W[lk];B[kl];W[fn];B[kn];W[ks];B[ls];W[js];B[lr];W[so];B[sp];W[sn];B[rp]
;W[qf];B[ll];W[ml];B[ed];W[dd];B[ge];W[ec];B[fd];W[lm];B[km];W[ga];B[ha];W[fa];B[hb]
;W[ln];B[lo];W[no];B[np];W[nn];B[cq];W[gf];B[he];W[ee];B[fh];W[fl];B[fj];W[gi];B[gj]
;W[fi]
(;B[ei]C[See var.];W[ej];B[ci];W[di];B[eh];W[ch];B[dh];W[dj];B[bi];W[cg];B[cf];W[dg]
;B[eg];W[dq];B[el];W[mi];B[li];W[ji];B[jh];W[qc];B[pa];W[qa];B[oa];W[al];B[am];W[ak]
;B[df];W[ef];B[ce];W[bd];B[be];W[cd];B[bg];W[fg];B[bh];W[ae];B[ac];W[ad];B[bf];W[fc]
;B[aj];W[fe];B[gd];W[io];B[in];W[im];B[jn];W[gk];B[lh];W[lj];B[jj];W[hg];B[je];W[ek]
;B[af];W[go];B[ah];W[bj];B[eh];W[eg];B[gm];W[hm];B[gq];W[gr];B[fp];W[fr];B[ep];W[fo]
;B[hs];W[hr];B[ir];W[iq];B[bb];W[cb];B[ca];W[da];B[ba];W[bc];B[ab];W[db])
(;B[ej]))
(;B[ln]C[Locally you want to hane.]))
(;B[ne]))
(;B[og]))
(;B[no]C[Jump. Ahead of White.]))
(;B[np]C[Better shape.]))

[KongShou]

(;CA[utf-8]FF[1]AP[MultiGo:4.4.4]SZ[19]GM[1]DT[2013-07-01]PB[ylart1-PC]BR[9]PW[GNU GO]
WR[Level 1]MULTIGOGM[0]
;B[pp];W[de];B[cp];W[qe];B[od];W[pc];B[oc];W[pb];B[ob];W[eq];B[dm];W[hq];B[kq];W[dc]
;B[jd];W[qn];B[qo];W[pn]
(;B[po]C[Bad. Empty triangle. See var.];W[on]
(;B[oo]C[Bad. Another empty triangle. See var.];W[pj];B[gc];W[ck];B[cl];W[dk];B[cr]
;W[of];B[nf];W[nh]
(;B[mh]C[See var.];W[ff];B[pe];W[pf];B[pd]C[Bad. Another empty triangle.];W[rc]
;B[qd];W[rd]
(;B[oe]TR[od][pd][qd][pe][oe]C[This big dumpling shape is not good. See var.];W[mn]
;B[mo];W[hf]
(;B[if]C[See var.];W[hh];B[ih];W[jr];B[kr];W[jq];B[jp];W[eo];B[do];W[ip];B[jo];W[dl]
;B[cm];W[hn];B[em];W[fb];B[gb];W[ng];B[mg];W[fk];B[me];W[rn];B[ro];W[bk];B[bl];W[fm]
;B[en]C[Another empty triangle.];W[ii];B[hi];W[gh];B[hj];W[ij];B[hk];W[hl];B[ik]
;W[dp];B[bo];W[dr];B[ds];W[es];B[cs];W[kj];B[jm];W[il];B[jk];W[jl];B[ig];W[ki];B[kh]
;W[mj];B[kk];W[lk];B[kl];W[fn];B[kn];W[ks];B[ls];W[js];B[lr];W[so];B[sp];W[sn];B[rp]
;W[qf];B[ll];W[ml];B[ed];W[dd];B[ge];W[ec];B[fd];W[lm];B[km];W[ga];B[ha];W[fa];B[hb]
;W[ln];B[lo];W[no];B[np];W[nn];B[cq];W[gf];B[he];W[ee];B[fh];W[fl];B[fj];W[gi];B[gj]
;W[fi]
(;B[ei]C[See var.];W[ej];B[ci];W[di];B[eh];W[ch];B[dh];W[dj];B[bi];W[cg];B[cf];W[dg]
;B[eg];W[dq];B[el];W[mi];B[li];W[ji];B[jh];W[qc];B[pa];W[qa];B[oa];W[al];B[am];W[ak]
;B[df];W[ef];B[ce];W[bd];B[be];W[cd];B[bg];W[fg];B[bh];W[ae];B[ac];W[ad];B[bf];W[fc]
;B[aj];W[fe];B[gd];W[io];B[in];W[im];B[jn];W[gk];B[lh];W[lj];B[jj];W[hg];B[je];W[ek]
;B[af];W[go];B[ah];W[bj];B[eh];W[eg];B[gm];W[hm];B[gq];W[gr];B[fp];W[fr];B[ep];W[fo]
;B[hs];W[hr];B[ir];W[iq];B[bb];W[cb];B[ca];W[da];B[ba];W[bc];B[ab];W[db])
(;B[ej]))
(;B[ln]C[Locally you want to hane.]))
(;B[ne]))
(;B[og]))
(;B[no]C[Jump. Ahead of White.]))
(;B[np]C[Better shape.]))

Thanks for the comments!

[Joaz Banbeck]

Your second game was better. You had no really big mistakes. The worst that I could say was that you made a lot of unduly conservative moves, strengthening yourself instead of going after the opponent's weaknesses.
Just be a tad more aggressive and you will get several stones stronger.

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But did you have to do it now? What happens if you don't? Will he play E18 himself?
Of course not. It would be small and gote. He can't play this util way late in the game. Save moves like this for ko threats.
Late in the game, when the biggest kos are half a point, and big ko threats are not needed, then maybe you play it.];W[fc];B[de];W[gf];B[ef];W[rk];B[dg];W[gn](;B[el]C[JB: One-on-one contact moves are usually defender's moves. He has two weak groups, and you are cutting between them. Don't let him strengthen himself by allowing a small one-on-one fight. Think big. See variation.];W[dj];B[ej]C[JB: Again, too close.];W[dm];B[em];W[hp](;B[kq]C[JB: Good idea, but a tad small. See variations];W[ck](;B[eh]C[JB: A very slow move. There are many other options available. See variations.];W[co];B[cp];W[dn];B[eo];W[jc](;B[gl]C[JB: Attacking these stones is not a bad idea. But you are coming from the wrong side. You have a strong wall. He wants to run away from your strength. See variations];W[in];B[hr];W[gr];B[dr];W[hq];B[ir];W[hl];B[hk]C[JB: Again, you are chasing him in the direction that he wants to run.];W[il](;B[gj]C[JB: What does this accomplish? He is starting to enclose a large portion of the board. See variations];W[jg]C[JB: Ouch!];B[ok];W[oj];B[nj];W[nh];B[oi];W[pj];B[ni];W[oh];B[mh];W[pi];B[mg];W[lm]C[JB: See what he does? You are one move away from enclsing a lot of territory be playing somewhere around M6. He reduces.];B[mm];W[ln];B[qq];W[me];B[nf];W[pf];B[oe];W[lf];B[nd];W[mb];B[li];W[ji];B[ii];W[jj];B[nl];W[sl];B[sm];W[sk];B[rn];W[bo];B[bp];W[ap];B[aq];W[ao];B[br];W[ne];B[of];W[od];B[md];W[mf];B[ng];W[kg];B[ig];W[if];B[fa];W[ga];B[ea];W[id];B[gb];W[hg];B[fe]C[JB: Nice move!];W[ih];B[ge]C[Another good move. *** END COMMENTS ***];W[pe];B[gd];W[hc];B[gc];W[mn];B[nn];W[mp];B[mq];W[gm];B[bh];W[bl];B[ci];W[fl];B[ek];W[gk];B[fj];W[di];B[dh];W[ll];B[pl];W[hi];B[ib];W[jb];B[ja];W[ka];B[ia];W[hj];B[dk];W[cj];B[bi];W[no];B[oo];W[np];B[op];W[jp];B[jq];W[lp];B[lq];W[bj];B[aj];W[ak];B[ai];W[kp];B[fq];W[gq];B[eq];W[fo];B[do];W[fr];B[er];W[lj];B[hd];W[ic];B[ha];W[he];B[gh];W[iq];B[js];W[ml];B[nm];W[hb];B[ga];W[fk];B[hh];W[gi];B[fh];W[fm];B[fn];W[ki];B[mk];W[lh];B[mi];W[lk];B[mj];W[og];B[nk];W[lg];B[ff];W[gg];B[fg];W[hs];B[is];W[gs];B[es];W[ij];B[bm];W[cm];B[am];W[al];B[bn];W[cn];B[ep];W[ei];B[fi];W[fs];B[ho];W[go];B[io];W[jo];B[km];W[jm];B[or])(;B[jf])(;B[nh])(;B[oe])(;B[if]))(;B[jo]C[JB Push him toward your wall, like a hammer slamming something against an anvil. Note your territory in the lower right is getting big.];W[gl];B[jl]C[JB: He runs; you chase. He gets nothing for running. You make territory while chasing.]))(;B[dn]C[JB: Over the past ten moves, he has become stronger on both sides of your keima, and could cut it with ease.]TR[en][dp])(;B[kd]C[JB: Invade the large side that he is starting to get.]))(;B[jq]C[JB: You are strong in the lower right. Extend from that strength. This move undermines.])(;B[jp]C[JB: This move cramps. He has better opportunities to get eye space against the edge than if you played K3, but you probably get more territory on the right.]))(;B[fm]C[JB: Same idea, fewer opportunities for a counter attack by white.]))(;B[ip]C[JB: Attack W, and start to take large territory.])(;B[kd]C[JB: This is the largest unoccupied side. Somewhere around here can't be bad.]))(;B[eo]C[JB: Simple and safe way to move out int the center.])(;B[dn];W[fn];B[em]C[JB: Again, moving out with no weaknesses.]))(;B[qj]C[JB: Same general idea, but bigger. Undermines white.])(;B[dg]C[JB: Solidifies B in the upper left, gets influence, leaves 2 W stones on the left side looking baseless and lost.]))(;B[cc]C[JB: Counter-attack against a pincering stone, done from underneath])(;B[fc]C[JB: Counter-attack against a pincering stone, done from the outside])(;B[fd]C[JB: Counter-attack against a pincering stone, done from the outside ])(;B[dh]C[JB: Counter-attack against a pincering stone. ( This has some drawbacks, and is only used in special circumstances )]))

BTW, there is an important idea in the comment to move 27. Make sure you read it.

[KongShou]

Your second game was better. You had no really big mistakes. The worst that I could say was that you made a lot of unduly conservative moves, strengthening yourself instead of going after the opponent's weaknesses.
Just be a tad more aggressive and you will get several stones stronger.

(;GM[1]FF[1]SZ[19]EV[Χ��������]DT[2013-07-01]PC[�й�]PB[ylart1-PC]BR[9 ��]PW[GNU GO]WR[Level 1]KM[��2��3/4��]RE[���ڱ�����]US[˼��Χ����];B[pp];W[dd];B[dp];W[qd];B[cf];W[ch](;B[bd]C[JB: This is a bit too passive. Usually in response to a pincer, you either run out, tenuki, or counter-attack one of the pincering stones. See variations.];W[df];B[dc];W[ec];B[db];W[ph];B[ed]C[JB: Good move! White should have played here last move. W is out of his joseki book and has no clue how to proceed in the corner. You apparently know better.];W[oc];B[nq];W[dl](;B[pm]C[JB: This feels a bit small, especially in response to the optimistic, expansive play of white. W has weaknesses. See variations];W[fp](;B[en]C[JB: Very risky. The keima can be cut. The general idea of moving out into the center is good, but there are safer ways to do it. See variations];W[qk]C[JB: This is an example of a much safer keima ( ogeima to be exact ). Even though it stretches more, it is safer because its backside is against the edge of the board.];B[ql];W[pk](;B[rl]C[JB: This looks premature. It is almost a yose move. There are bigger places to play. See variations];W[fd];B[ee];W[fb];B[eb]C[JB: What does this do for you? OK, eventually you will get get one additional point around D19 because of this.
But did you have to do it now? What happens if you don't? Will he play E18 himself?
Of course not. It would be small and gote. He can't play this util way late in the game. Save moves like this for ko threats.
Late in the game, when the biggest kos are half a point, and big ko threats are not needed, then maybe you play it.];W[fc];B[de];W[gf];B[ef];W[rk];B[dg];W[gn](;B[el]C[JB: One-on-one contact moves are usually defender's moves. He has two weak groups, and you are cutting between them. Don't let him strengthen himself by allowing a small one-on-one fight. Think big. See variation.];W[dj];B[ej]C[JB: Again, too close.];W[dm];B[em];W[hp](;B[kq]C[JB: Good idea, but a tad small. See variations];W[ck](;B[eh]C[JB: A very slow move. There are many other options available. See variations.];W[co];B[cp];W[dn];B[eo];W[jc](;B[gl]C[JB: Attacking these stones is not a bad idea. But you are coming from the wrong side. You have a strong wall. He wants to run away from your strength. See variations];W[in];B[hr];W[gr];B[dr];W[hq];B[ir];W[hl];B[hk]C[JB: Again, you are chasing him in the direction that he wants to run.];W[il](;B[gj]C[JB: What does this accomplish? He is starting to enclose a large portion of the board. See variations];W[jg]C[JB: Ouch!];B[ok];W[oj];B[nj];W[nh];B[oi];W[pj];B[ni];W[oh];B[mh];W[pi];B[mg];W[lm]C[JB: See what he does? You are one move away from enclsing a lot of territory be playing somewhere around M6. He reduces.];B[mm];W[ln];B[qq];W[me];B[nf];W[pf];B[oe];W[lf];B[nd];W[mb];B[li];W[ji];B[ii];W[jj];B[nl];W[sl];B[sm];W[sk];B[rn];W[bo];B[bp];W[ap];B[aq];W[ao];B[br];W[ne];B[of];W[od];B[md];W[mf];B[ng];W[kg];B[ig];W[if];B[fa];W[ga];B[ea];W[id];B[gb];W[hg];B[fe]C[JB: Nice move!];W[ih];B[ge]C[Another good move. *** END COMMENTS ***];W[pe];B[gd];W[hc];B[gc];W[mn];B[nn];W[mp];B[mq];W[gm];B[bh];W[bl];B[ci];W[fl];B[ek];W[gk];B[fj];W[di];B[dh];W[ll];B[pl];W[hi];B[ib];W[jb];B[ja];W[ka];B[ia];W[hj];B[dk];W[cj];B[bi];W[no];B[oo];W[np];B[op];W[jp];B[jq];W[lp];B[lq];W[bj];B[aj];W[ak];B[ai];W[kp];B[fq];W[gq];B[eq];W[fo];B[do];W[fr];B[er];W[lj];B[hd];W[ic];B[ha];W[he];B[gh];W[iq];B[js];W[ml];B[nm];W[hb];B[ga];W[fk];B[hh];W[gi];B[fh];W[fm];B[fn];W[ki];B[mk];W[lh];B[mi];W[lk];B[mj];W[og];B[nk];W[lg];B[ff];W[gg];B[fg];W[hs];B[is];W[gs];B[es];W[ij];B[bm];W[cm];B[am];W[al];B[bn];W[cn];B[ep];W[ei];B[fi];W[fs];B[ho];W[go];B[io];W[jo];B[km];W[jm];B[or])(;B[jf])(;B[nh])(;B[oe])(;B[if]))(;B[jo]C[JB Push him toward your wall, like a hammer slamming something against an anvil. Note your territory in the lower right is getting big.];W[gl];B[jl]C[JB: He runs; you chase. He gets nothing for running. You make territory while chasing.]))(;B[dn]C[JB: Over the past ten moves, he has become stronger on both sides of your keima, and could cut it with ease.]TR[en][dp])(;B[kd]C[JB: Invade the large side that he is starting to get.]))(;B[jq]C[JB: You are strong in the lower right. Extend from that strength. This move undermines.])(;B[jp]C[JB: This move cramps. He has better opportunities to get eye space against the edge than if you played K3, but you probably get more territory on the right.]))(;B[fm]C[JB: Same idea, fewer opportunities for a counter attack by white.]))(;B[ip]C[JB: Attack W, and start to take large territory.])(;B[kd]C[JB: This is the largest unoccupied side. Somewhere around here can't be bad.]))(;B[eo]C[JB: Simple and safe way to move out int the center.])(;B[dn];W[fn];B[em]C[JB: Again, moving out with no weaknesses.]))(;B[qj]C[JB: Same general idea, but bigger. Undermines white.])(;B[dg]C[JB: Solidifies B in the upper left, gets influence, leaves 2 W stones on the left side looking baseless and lost.]))(;B[cc]C[JB: Counter-attack against a pincering stone, done from underneath])(;B[fc]C[JB: Counter-attack against a pincering stone, done from the outside])(;B[fd]C[JB: Counter-attack against a pincering stone, done from the outside ])(;B[dh]C[JB: Counter-attack against a pincering stone. ( This has some drawbacks, and is only used in special circumstances )]))

BTW, there is an important idea in the comment to move 27. Make sure you read it.

thanks for the comments!

sorry i dont understand any of your terminology, i learned using chinese. but i understood the general idea, and understand all my mistakes. Cheers!

[Joaz Banbeck]

...sorry i dont understand any of your terminology...

Try this: http://senseis.xmp.net/