Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

Post by topazg »

I kept putting this off because of time constraints, and missed the deadline :(

tj86430 wrote:5. 1k (spirito vs. topazg)


Hahaha, awesome! I'm guessing I won as Black in this game looks very much like the way I'd play, but when's it from? I don't remember this game at all ..

EDIT: Found it, 30th July 2008!

I think I was a weak EGF 2k or so around then, so 1k is slightly generous to me, but heh, that's what the server said at the time so I guess you have to use it
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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

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Some analysis of the scores:

Average of points for each game:

1: 6.00
2: 6.79
3: 5.74
4: 6.00
5: 6.68

Standard deviation of points for each game:

1: 2.75
2: 2.86
3: 2.45
4: 3.02
5: 3.11

Competitors rank vs score (first graph is for total score, and the rest for individual games. Two graphs / image)
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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

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Score 4 looks like a kangaroo, score 5 looks like a horse. What this says about trends in strength vs accuracy I don't know...
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Post by unkx80 »

I guess I did much better than anticipated. Seems pretty much consistent with my own rank guessing estimation when I posted life and death problems - I never seem to estimate the difficulty on the spot, but always off by about 3 ranks in either direction. :P

The charts show some interesting information. The total score indicates that a player's ability to estimate ranks seem to be independent from the player's rank?

People tend to do guess better in games 1, 2, and 4. Game 3 floored most people. There are points all over the place in the chart of game 5.
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Please note, that only the answers of people whose rank is indicated in profile are included in the graphs.
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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

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Wow, I did well for a change!

Now I just wish that I only had to do this once to get a prize...

I guess I will try to do well in the next one, too.
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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

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Actually, I can't seem to find the next one, now. Is this series being postponed?
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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

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Kirby wrote:Actually, I can't seem to find the next one, now. Is this series being postponed?

My guess is that Araban has been too busy (or has forgotten).
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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

Post by Solomon »

tj86430 wrote:
Kirby wrote:Actually, I can't seem to find the next one, now. Is this series being postponed?

My guess is that Araban has been too busy (or has forgotten).

I've been busy, but the reason was that I made a mental note to start the next one on the 20th for some reason instead of the 15th :/.

edit: Epic fail on my part, I filtered out the kibitz on the SGFs I picked out and had them ready to go, but drove down to my family's home and forgot to post the new SGFs or put them on a thumb drive :/. Delayed till Sunday evening when I get back, again sorry :(.
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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

Post by Chew Terr »

Hey, I did 100% better on this game than the last one!
Someday I want to be strong enough to earn KGS[-].
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Re: Strength Analysis Forum Game - Series 1

Post by Harleqin »

Will there be a continuation here? :)
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.
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