Ades

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:45 am

Both G3 and H4 can be CUT.

The first question is: can you find a move that CANNOT be CUT.

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:09 pm

Hi Ades,

marakula game:

:b13:

Maybe better to get out -- extend to o15.
This tiger's mouth -- P17 -- you are boxed in the corner.

:w14:

Mis-understand basic shapes.
W must atari at o15. B connects at P16.
Then, W tiger's mouth N14, and B is completely boxed in the corner.

:b15:

Wrong shape. Just extend to o15.

:w16:

Atari o15.

:w22:

just connect N15.

:b27:

L16.

M18. Vital point to kill.

:b45:

Not urgent. Look at your weak group at Q10.

:w50:

Terrible. Broken shape for W. See small gaps .

:b53:

You're hurting your other group at o8.
Maybe better to jump out directly, e.g. N8.

:b57:

Basic shape problem. This shape is strange. N8.

Ades · Post by **Ades** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:09 pm

EdLee wrote:Both G3 and H4 can be CUT.

The first question is: can you find a move that CANNOT be CUT.

okay..
G4 would be a sufficient answer then

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:32 pm

Ades wrote:G4 would be a sufficient answer then

OK, G4 cannot be cut. Maybe a bit slow. Other ideas: H5, or F7.

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:39 pm

Hi Ades,

xohoho456 game.

:b5:

Don't follow your opponent around like a puppy.
The lower left corner is empty -- why not take it.

:w6:

The basic shape here is o16 -- o16 is the local shared vital point.

:b7:

Mis-understand basic shapes. o16 is the shared vital point after :b5:

.
W missed o16 -- you should take it.
Don't follow your opponent around like a puppy.

:b11:

The joseki move is extend d15. Study this joseki.

Studying the joseki starting with d15 is worth this game.

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:47 pm

Hi Ades,

axel7897 game:

:b9:

Study the joseki starting with C3 -- worth this game.

:b13:

Very strange to tenuki when W offers you a nice exchange -- block at N4.
Misunderstanding of basic shapes.

Ades · Post by **Ades** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:55 pm

Hi, EdLee

it seems i got more confused from time to time, since it is like so much thing i have to learn
i think for now i'll be better by learning from experience from game to game, well with a help of tsumego and books in sometime in a small dose
few last game i lost and i think the reason is this matter

Ades · Post by **Ades** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:32 am

14.06.15

Ades (11k) vs karshin (3k) H8 W+Res

Ades (11k) vs Xanarz (10k) W+2.5

Ades (11k) vs Hallonen (10k) W+Res

Ades · Post by **Ades** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:07 am

CLOSED

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:17 am

Ades wrote:it seems i got more confused from time to time...
few last game i lost and i think the reason is this matter

Hi Ades, playing games is also very good for your experience, yes.

And yes, Go is very deep. (Much deeper than many people realize.

)

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:20 am

Hi Ades,

karshin game:

:b4:

D6.

Bad exchange.

:w7:

W wants to go up, H5, not down.

:b8:

Bad. J6 or J2.

:w23:

This local shape is a disaster for Black.
This shape is much worse than toothpaste.

:b32:

Big mistake, locally.

:b36:

wrong direction. You're hurting your own J3 group.

:w43:

Broken shape for Black. See small gap.

:b50:

Wrong shape. Atari, then connect.

:w75:

Wrong sequence. Throw-in-atari L5, W kills everything here.

All basic shape problems.

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:11 am

Hi Ades,

Xanarz game:

:b25:

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These 2 moves show you have no plan here, but just throwing stones down for experiment.

:b33:

Bad result here for White. Broken shape for White. See small gap.

:w34:

Bad.

Good. See toothpaste.

:b39:

Mis-understand basic shapes. A11.

:b41:

Mis-understand basic shapes. B12.

:w68:

See toothpaste.

:b93:

Q11 vital point. See elephant's eye .

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:22 am

Hi Ades,

Hallonen game:

:b47:

Broken shape for Black. See small gap.

:w50:

See toothpaste.

:b53:

Completely wrong shape at R6. W pushes at R6 -- you local shape is destroyed here.

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