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What dfan said. :)
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Has anyone managed to run foxwq on Linux?
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Does anyone know if there is a minumum number of moves required for a game to count on Fox? I just played 2 short games, the first only had 1 move (I guess he quit because he didn't like my high winrate, not counting a 1 move game seems fair enough), but the second was 29 moves and I put quite some thought into countering a funny rotational mirror go so when he resigned due to a not working ladder I feel I deserve that win to count. But actually it wasn't so clear if he plays a ladder breaker/maker which was interesting:



P.S. tried analyzing a bit with LZ183 (kinda dubious given it has troubles with ladders), and it didn't even consider L9 type move but once shown agrees is very good, +12% :D But black still slight lead with the trade of saving the 2 and giving up right side (LZ agrees take ponnuki and give white ladder of 2 bad for black).
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In the chat it says 10 moves to count.

Maybe it was a free game?
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I did wonder if it was free, but not only did this game not increment my ranked win/loss counts, it doesn't show in my game list. I thought maybe that only shows ranked games, but if I look at FineArtB's game list I see many free games and there is a ranked/free column. Maybe my game list has a ranked-only filter? Or KGS has a feature that white van choose not to keep a record of short games, maybe something similar on Fox?
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BlindGroup wrote:Does anyone know how to resolve this issue on Fox? I just played the game below that ended with the scoring algorithm judging the top group as alive. In this case, it didn't affect the outcome of the game, but how do you mark stones dead if the scoring estimator incorrectly judges them alive?
In case anyone else has the same question, the answer is that instead of choosing the button to request counting, you need to first click the button labeled "mark dead". If you end up in counting and find a mistake, decline the result of the automatic counting, return to the game, and then click on the "mark dead" button.
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I don't know if it's new or I just missed it before, but for pro accounts, including silver/gold crowns (which means national/international champion) there's the name and rank in Chinese on the middle left of the user info. This post is to collect pro account names:

seobs01 = Seo Bongsu 9p
steadfast = Luo Xihe 9p
tlearn = Shibano Toramaru 7p
adidas12 = Kyo Kagen / Shu Chiayuan 8p
NightCome = Jiang Weijie 9p
tiger = Yoda Norimoto 9p
smile = Yang Dingxin 7p
Lucifer = Sun Tengyu
piaojie = Kang Dongyun 9p
ykpcx 10d = Fan Tingyu 9p
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It might be better to move this to a separate topic like "Professional Player Usernames on Fox Go Server". I can imagine people will want to find it in the future.
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Some addition to features on fox coins, other than betting on pros and high ranked amateur games.
- you need 100k fox coins for solutions to their go problems
- you need 1k fox coins for a emoji in chat
- used for paying teaching games (1 million-10 million fox coins per game, according to chat. Although many offer it for free.)
- you could spread them in chat (by using the red envelope icon), and be thanked for it
- seems they are traded at approx. $US10 per 100 million fox coins.

By the way I finally reached my (KGS+2) rank today after "the first 100 losses" on fox. (KGS 3k, fox 1k. 101 losses, to be accurate.)
Started as 3kyu, but due to their different playstyle, got kick down to 5kyu, and climbed up from there. I had to adjust my playstyle on the way; from attacking for profit to attacking to kill (cause many will try to disrupt every attempt to build), from speed to solid play (cause many will try to cut wherever they can, and they are good at escaping with any cutting stones).
This adjustment is causing a negative effect on my KGS games, but I think this struggle could be catalyst for further improvement.
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Some more questions, I had:

- Roughly, how many games does it take to advance from one level to the next ? (e.g. from 3d to 4d)

- There is a green button to start a game, but what is the purple button for. (i.e. the one on the right of it) ?

Thank you in advance.
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A 16-2 as a 1D got me to 3D
Next a 22-17 as 3D got me to 4D
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spook wrote:
- There is a green button to start a game, but what is the purple button for. (i.e. the one on the right of it) ?

Thank you in advance.
I tried a tool where you can draw chinese characters and it will translate them. It translates to "A dry ..." and then something.
Google translate also has the feature. It yields "One thousand ...". Again the last character is hard to find.

Maybe a bet of 1000?
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spook wrote:Some more questions, I had:

- Roughly, how many games does it take to advance from one level to the next ? (e.g. from 3d to 4d)

- There is a green button to start a game, but what is the purple button for. (i.e. the one on the right of it) ?

Thank you in advance.
1. Fox works on a win X out of your last Y games to go up 1 or 2 ranks system, where X and Y vary based on your rank. You can see how many games you personally need to win/lose on your user info to promote/demote, the green and red up down arrows with number of games. (Below is 12 wins up 1 rank, 16 wins up 2 ranks, 13 losses down 1, 17 losses down 2).
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Click 'Ranked Game Rules' button to see the rules across the ranks.
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2. Assuming you mean the purple button with text '一子千金' it's a special game mode in which captures count for double points, to encourage killing. See forum/viewtopic.php?p=238734#p238734

P.S. Knotwilg, rather than drawing I take a screenshot and online OCR e.g. http://www.i2ocr.com/free-online-chines ... tional-ocr
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Thank you ! :)
Great stuff.
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