Kirby's Study Journal

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:26 pm

First thing that stands out to me when reviewing with KataGo is that, here, KataGo seems to recommend a pincer:

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after around 10k playouts or whatever, at least.

I guess it's because black is strong on the bottom.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:30 pm

Second thing that stands out to me is that KataGo seems to have the same choice as me in early intuition here:

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However, later comes up with this stinger:

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Not thinking I'd come up with that in a game. Maybe next time.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:39 pm

The first place where KataGo really seems to dislike my move is here:

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Down by 8 or 9%. Instead, the recommendation is here:

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I don't completely understand why, but the general idea seems that white has miai with 'a' and 'b' here:

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Either white settles comfortably, or surrounds black, I guess.

So psychological question: why did I play the tiger's mouth connection? Awhile back, I translated some of Choi Cheolhan's videos for Young Sunyoon 8p. He covered double approach for a few episodes, and he basically said that you don't need to worry about being cut as white in this position. The cut I mean is this one:

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So my thought was, "if I strengthen my group in the center, cut is no problem... But I guess this is a lot worse than some of the alternatives here. The moral? I suppose it means that proverbs or sayings with theory can give a general idea, but they can limit thinking about other possibilities.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:47 pm

Surprisingly, I seem to be doing OK here:

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But it looks like my move here was too fancy:

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KataGo liked the turn above instead. Then what really put things over was this double hane:

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Instead, extending seems to keep my stones somewhat safe without problem, and it still seems like a decent game. It's still *somewhat* close here - black 56%, per KataGo. But seems I blundered a bit, and didn't catch up after that.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:48 pm

One last note on this game that I lost.

I really admired my opponent for this move:

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It wasn't on my radar, and when he played it, I just felt he was stronger than me...

So anyway, that puts me at 2-1 in this online open thing so far. I'll play the last game on Saturday. In the meantime, this week, I'll play some games for Inseong's summer league thing. So a lot of serious games this week!

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:31 pm

Didn't do the blitz tournament for the e-congress, because it's hard for my work schedule. But I am doing Inseong's summer stage. Today's activity was a game (3-person simul) with Kim Youngsam.

He smashed me:

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:40 pm

Some general notes from his review:

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My atari above was kind of crude. Instead, he recommended this:

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He liked my move here:

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He also liked this one:

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But he said the timing was good to play this, first:

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Or otherwise, play the ko I played later in the game.

The problem is, I didn't see that ko that early in the game.

Still, he thought the game was OK, but didn't like the move here:

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I played it because I was concerned about his cut. However, he said this variation was good for black:

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I was really worried about him cutting and capturing me, but he said that black is getting a lot of points and thick here. I can kind of see it now, but it was hard during the game to think about that.

Finally, he said the ko I did was a good try, but I shouldn't kill the top here:

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Instead, just take the ko.

During the game, I was afraid he might kill me at the top. But I didn't read an actual killing sequence. And it seems it would've been seki... So I should've just captured and moved on.

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All in all, it was a fun game. My first time playing Youngsam.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:21 am

Added BIBA to the mix - joined their online program, again. My first game of this month, against NhanHo:

I knew going into this that he was stronger than me. He got really far ahead, and pointed out a couple of big joseki mistakes.

First, he said that this was too slow:

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I agree with him. Instead, I can follow suit:

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More than that, he pointed out that I missed a really big move here:

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Instead, this:

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Black can play there in sente, so it's really big.

Then, he said I made black way too thick with this:

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I didn't think about bringing the stone out, but he pointed out I could try this:

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Finally, he said this was a huge mistake:

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It really hurts my stone at the 4-6 point.

So generally speaking, I think that NhanHo really knows these corner variations better than I do. And I need to study and get a grip on them. So at least there's something I can do about it.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:17 pm

Two games today: one for Inseong's summer stage, and then a second for the e-congress. Technically, my econgress opponent didn't show up for the 4th round, so I got a bye for that. I played Brady from Brady's Blunders instead, because his opponent also didn't show up.

Here are the games:

Summer Stage:

E-Go Congress:

I'd like to review a little bit, but probably more urgent to spend some time with my family at the moment. Spent a lot of time on go this Saturday.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:01 pm

Last game of the summer stage:

Inseong reviewed the game, and I also checked a little bit with KataGo. Basically, black played slow in the opening so I got a lead. But things started to go awry with these two decisions:

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For this one, I think I just played too quickly. It reminded me a little bit of this shape:

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It's a little hard to say white, but the block above at the marked stone seems like a similar feeling to me.

Anyway, I just went for that kind of solid connection.

Instead, it makes a lot more sense to just play here:

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The shape just seems better... For this one, I feel comfortable chalking up to just playing too quickly.

The other concept is probably a deeper problem:

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Inseong says this is like a repeating concept in my games: I am not flexible. I want to play the strongest way, and I don't budge - even when it doesn't work. He said I should be more flexible and negotiate. When I'm in an advantageous situation, that lack of flexibility can be strong. But when I'm in a situation where it's not working, I can collapse.

His recommendation in this particular situation is this:

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I asked Inseong "how" to be more flexible. But I guess it's a hard thing to describe, and I just have to overcome it... So I've been thinking about the AYD a little bit. I've been doing it for a really long time on and off. Inseong's advice to me has changed slightly recently, but it's similar.

Before, he noted that I always play the technical moves. I try to make something happen when it's not there. I play the fancy move, just because it's fun to play. I've been trying not to do that, and recently, the repeating concept is that I'm not flexible - I go 100% or nothing.

Looking at the examples Inseong gives, I think I agree with him. But at the same time, it makes game reviews a little boring: I play a game, Inseong says I'm inflexible or tried something that didn't work. I play another game, and Inseong says I'm inflexible or tried something that didn't work.

I agree with his point, and he's probably right. I get to see some examples in my game, so there's that. But there's no path forward as to how to fix it, so I don't really see why I need Inseong to keep telling me the same thing over and over again. I can just check KataGo or something, and when I play a move that drops 10%, I can ask myself if I'm being inflexible or overly technical. Because that's the same advice I always get.

I hope I can overcome it, but I don't know how beneficial the review is when it's just the same thing on repeat. My fault for repeating, I guess.

So for the time being, I think I'm gonna go with some different teaching for now, I think. I want to still keep in mind that instruction: I'm inflexible, and I always play the technical move. But if it's always like that for me every game, I don't need a teacher to tell me over and over again - he already did.

mhlepore · Post by **mhlepore** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:13 pm

Hi Brian - I don't think trying another method of learning is a bad idea. Sounds like you've hit a wall with the current plan.

I remember almost 20 years ago Yilun Yang came to Seattle for a weekend workshop. It was my first exposure to his style of teaching. In his game reviews, he instantly prescribed the correct move, which always cleanly conformed to one of his easy to understand principles. Yet I found it very hard to incorporate some of the lessons from that weekend into my game. In fact, I felt my game got worse, and it frustrated me quite a bit that I couldn't make his good advice fit with my play.

I still think Mr. Yang is a good teacher, but it has helped me to see other strong players make similar points in their own way. Or make different points altogether.

ez4u · Post by **ez4u** » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:02 pm

Kirby wrote:Last game of the summer stage...
Inseong says this is like a repeating concept in my games: I am not flexible. I want to play the strongest way, and I don't budge - even when it doesn't work. He said I should be more flexible and negotiate. When I'm in an advantageous situation, that lack of flexibility can be strong. But when I'm in a situation where it's not working, I can collapse.

I asked Inseong "how" to be more flexible. But I guess it's a hard thing to describe, and I just have to overcome it... So I've been thinking about the AYD a little bit. I've been doing it for a really long time on and off. Inseong's advice to me has changed slightly recently, but it's similar.

Before, he noted that I always play the technical moves. I try to make something happen when it's not there. I play the fancy move, just because it's fun to play. I've been trying not to do that, and recently, the repeating concept is that I'm not flexible - I go 100% or nothing.

Looking at the examples Inseong gives, I think I agree with him. But at the same time, it makes game reviews a little boring: I play a game, Inseong says I'm inflexible or tried something that didn't work. I play another game, and Inseong says I'm inflexible or tried something that didn't work.

I agree with his point, and he's probably right. I get to see some examples in my game, so there's that. But there's no path forward as to how to fix it, so I don't really see why I need Inseong to keep telling me the same thing over and over again. I can just check KataGo or something, and when I play a move that drops 10%, I can ask myself if I'm being inflexible or overly technical. Because that's the same advice I always get.

I hope I can overcome it, but I don't know how beneficial the review is when it's just the same thing on repeat. My fault for repeating, I guess.

So for the time being, I think I'm gonna go with some different teaching for now, I think. I want to still keep in mind that instruction: I'm inflexible, and I always play the technical move. But if it's always like that for me every game, I don't need a teacher to tell me over and over again - he already did.

This has me smiling and shaking my head. He tells you that you are too inflexible when you play. You cannot imagine how you could change. In other words, you are too inflexible when you don't play too! So rather than force yourself to change, you will change teachers so that you don't have to listen to the same criticism all the time. So your only flexibility will be in shooting the messenger.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:25 pm

Not quite, ez4u. I agree that I can be inflexible and that I need to change.

But if that’s the only message I hear about my play, why do I need a teacher? To tell me the same thing, again?

If Inseong could tell me HOW to not be inflexible, or give me a path to change, then that would be valuable. But without that, I can just put up a sign on my desk and it accomplishes the same thing: a sign that says, “You’re often inflexible”.

I don’t think I can be blamed for not being patient about this. I’ve been his student on and off for about 6 years. The whole time, I’ve been inflexible, and I hear the same story.

If I knew how to fix it with Inseong’s help, I would have done it by now...

I didn’t want to say it directly, because I think Inseong is a great teacher overall. But I think that, due to the large number of students, it’s pretty easy to give a focused review for the new students he doesn’t know well, and when it’s time for my review, just find a move that’s inflexible, and move on to the next guy.

In some ways, I wonder if I’d get the same review if I were anonymous.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:34 pm

Specifically, when you state that I “cannot imagine how I would change”, I mean that if a teacher could tell me how, I want to receive that instruction. But I’m not getting that!

Maybe you still think I’m being unreasonable. I don’t know why, do you can keep laughing and shaking your head at me, I guess.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:30 pm

Kirby wrote: I don’t think I can be blamed for not being patient about this. I’ve been his student on and off for about 6 years. The whole time, I’ve been inflexible, and I hear the same story.

Hmmm. Maybe you're not the only one who is being inflexible.

If you don't mind, here is a question. In go, what does it mean to be flexible? OK, if you knew, you could play more flexibly. So here is a related question. What might it mean to be flexible in go? A brainstorming question.

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