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by dwest » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:27 pm
I started a game against Many Faces, but I'm totally at a loss for where to play now. I fear the central black influence that could be built by white approaching either 5-4 enclosure at the 3-4 point. What would be the conseqeunces of a play near a? Is a high splitting move at around b appropriate? Or approach the top 5-4 corner at c? What to do!? How could my responses to black's two approaches be improved?
$$B Moves 5 to 13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 6 . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 7 , . 4 . . . , . . c . X , . . . | $$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . b b . . | $$ | . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B Moves 5 to 13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 6 . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 7 , . 4 . . . , . . c . X , . . . | $$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . b b . . | $$ | . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]Thanks!
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by emeraldemon » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:50 pm
dwest wrote: I fear
This is your problem
I would play "a" in the diagram below. "b" is second choice, but I think "a" is more important because it prevents an enclosure facing the other 5-4 stone.
$$Bcm1 Moves 5 to 13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 6 . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 7 , . 4 . . . , . . . . X , a . . | $$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . b . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Moves 5 to 13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 6 . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 7 , . 4 . . . , . . . . X , a . . | $$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . b . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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by jts » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:26 pm
Go to josekipedia, thumb through a few of the 5-4 joseki, choose a result that strikes your fancy, play it, and get on with the middle game. There's nothing to fear. The worst case scenario is you acquire a good feel for how to successfully double-approach the corner.