$$Wcm1 Score - B:54 W:41 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . p . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | 3 W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | . B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | . B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | . W B W . 2 1 . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m . . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W . . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:54 W:41 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . p . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | 3 W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | . B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | . B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | . W B W . 2 1 . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m . . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W . . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
If you accept.
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
$$Wcm1 Score - B:55 W:41 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . p . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | . B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | . B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | . W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m X . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W . . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:55 W:41 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . p . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | . B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | . B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | . W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m X . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W . . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
Seeing if white will connect - white probably won't, so I will then take the minus point and get about 10 points swing in the corner. I think that's better than me connecting and white playing at this point instead. Now there is also three spots worth about 4-6 points (the top plus point is largest), but unfortunately I don't think I'll have time to play first.
$$Wcm1 Score - B:55 W:42 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . p . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | . B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | . B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | . W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m B . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W O . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:55 W:42 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . p . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | . B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | . B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | . W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m B . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W O . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
$$Wcm1 Score - B:55 W:42 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . p . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | X B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | . B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | . W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m B . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W W . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:55 W:42 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . p . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | X B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | . B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | . W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m B . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W W . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
$$Wcm1 Score - B:56 W:49 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . 3 . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | X B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | 2 B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | 1 W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m B . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W W . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:56 W:49 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . 3 . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B . B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | X B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | 2 B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | 1 W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m B . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W W . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
If he connects his stone I believe connecting mine back to my group is bigger than taking the final +5 point on the board.
$$Bcm1 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . 2 O . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B 1 B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | X B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | B B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | W W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m B . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W W . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Bcm1 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . 2 O . . . . . | $$ | . . . W B 1 B B . B . | $$ | . . m W W . W W B B . | $$ | W W W . . . W B B W . | $$ | X B B W W B . W W . W | $$ | B . B B B B . . . W p | $$ | B B W W . B . . . . . | $$ | W W B W . B W . W . . | $$ | . W m W . B . W m B . | $$ | . . B W W B . B W W . | $$ | . . . B W B . B . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
Sorry for the red circles, too late to change the previous diagrams now, but perhaps we can flip the use of red circles for current moves?
$$Wcm1 Score - B:57 W:49 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O p | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O X O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O m O . X . O m X . | $$ | . B X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:57 W:49 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O p | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O X O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O m O . X . O m X . | $$ | . B X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
$$Wcm1 Score - B:56 W:45 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O p | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O W O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:56 W:45 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O p | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O W O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
$$Wcm1 Score - B:57 W:45 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X B X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O p | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O O O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:57 W:45 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X B X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O p | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O O O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
$$Wcm1 Score - B:57 W:46 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . W O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O p | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O O O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Wcm1 Score - B:57 W:46 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . W O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O p | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O O O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
$$Bcm1 Score - B:64 W:47 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . 2 W O 1 . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O 3 | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O O O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:64 W:47 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . 2 W O 1 . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O 3 | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O O O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
$$Bcm1 Score - B:64 W:47 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . | $$ | . . 1 O X X X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O X | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O O O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+
[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:64 W:47 $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . O O O X . . . . | $$ | . . 1 O X X X X . X . | $$ | . . m O O . O O X X . | $$ | O O O . . . O X X O . | $$ | X X X O O X . O O . O | $$ | X . X X X X . . . O X | $$ | X X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | O O . O . X O . O . . | $$ | . O O O . X . O m X . | $$ | . X X O O X . X O O . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . | $$ +-----------------------+[/go]
At any point you can play a move like , and at the end of the game it will either be left on the board or (since Batoo uses area-like scoring) I'll have to capture it, resulting in -5 points. That leaves me too far behind to win the game.
Thanks for the game illuck, it was a lot of fun .
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
I'm pretty sure: the game uses area scoring, and from looking at one of the other threads it said that the minus points do not get counted as actual territory. Araban apparently wrote a thorough review of the rules at GoDiscussions, but that's down. What's worse, Godiscussions robots.txt disallows traversal of the threads on it's forum, so the Internet Archive doesn't have a backup.
I didn't think about this situation at the beginning of the game, but it's the interpretation that would make the most sense to me.
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.